{"id":2165,"date":"2014-02-17T11:13:58","date_gmt":"2014-02-17T11:13:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.therialto.co.uk\/pages\/?p=2165"},"modified":"2025-02-03T12:04:41","modified_gmt":"2025-02-03T12:04:41","slug":"editing-for-the-rialto-iii-putting-the-new-magazine-together-broadening-the-catchment","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.therialto.co.uk\/pages\/2014\/02\/17\/editing-for-the-rialto-iii-putting-the-new-magazine-together-broadening-the-catchment\/","title":{"rendered":"Editing for The Rialto III: putting the new magazine together, broadening the catchment"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><i>The Rialto<\/i> arrived at the end of last week.\u00a0 It\u2019s strange to open a poetry magazine whose contents you know, down to the last comma \u2013 have discussed and selected, and then proof-read down to the last comma.\u00a0 I hope there aren&#8217;t any mistakes.<\/p>\n<p>On starting to read submissions for a new issue, you have no idea what shape it might take.\u00a0 As the accepted poems mount up, some trends may emerge.\u00a0 I found I wasn\u2019t paying much attention to this, only to whether the poems I was reading were good, except for a couple of times when I thought Oh, this one might go well with X.<\/p>\n<p>When it was<span style=\"color: #000080;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.therialto.co.uk\/pages\/wp-content\/uploads\/Rialto-79-cover-PRESS-1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" wp-image-2094 alignleft\" alt=\"Rialto 79 cover PRESS-1\" src=\"http:\/\/www.therialto.co.uk\/pages\/wp-content\/uploads\/Rialto-79-cover-PRESS-1-211x300.jpg\" width=\"190\" height=\"270\" \/><\/a><\/span> time to put the poems together for <span style=\"color: #000080;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.therialto.co.uk\/pages\/product\/rialto-magazine-79\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">Issue 79, the one that\u2019s out now<\/span><\/a><\/span> with hoopoes and a wild boar on the front cover, the three editors borrowed the sitting-room of a North London basement flat.\u00a0 We each laid out on the floor our own proposal for ordering.\u00a0 We were well on the way to a synthesis when the door was nudged open and a small black whirlwind skittered across the room, sending paper flying.\u00a0 And back again, taking a different route.\u00a0 Muddy paw-prints everywhere.\u00a0 It was very funny and the puppy was adorable when she calmed down.\u00a0 But then I didn\u2019t have to try to recreate a magazine.\u00a0 Michael Mackmin\u2019s thoughts may have been less charitable.<\/p>\n<p>Ordering the poems was like putting up a tent \u2013 the canvas needs to be taut everywhere, if it sags then a prop is needed.\u00a0 (This metaphor won\u2019t stand up itself when tested, but I found it helped the thinking.)\u00a0 The prop might be a longer set of poems, or one especially striking poem.\u00a0 Or two.<\/p>\n<p>It seems to be good to have, in the juxtapositions, a mixture of resonances\/echoes and contrasts. When I did my own ordering before we met, I made mistakes, for example putting two longer sets of work next to each other that were a little similar in tone.\u00a0 Not that this would always not work, but it didn\u2019t here.<\/p>\n<p>One of the best things about <i>The Rialto<\/i> is its A4 spaciousness \u2013 there\u2019s room for longer poems, or several from the same author, without unbalancing the magazine or making it look crammed.\u00a0 So there are six short poems from Niall Campbell, plus his prose account of his own writing. Co-assistant editor Abigail Parry and I are both fans of his work and now Michael is too.\u00a0 Niall\u2019s first collection from Bloodaxe is one of my most-anticipated books of 2014.\u00a0 There are some poems from Nichola Deane, whose pamphlet <i>My Moriarty<\/i> I\u2019ve <span style=\"color: #000080;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/displacement-poetry.blogspot.co.uk\/2014\/01\/my-moriarty-by-nichola-deane.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">just reviewed<\/span><\/a> <\/span>on my blog (<span style=\"color: #000080;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/displacement-poetry.blogspot.co.uk\/2012\/05\/after-creel-fleet.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">as I did Niall&#8217;s<\/span><\/a><\/span>); several pages given to Hannah Lowe\u2019s work in progress centred on saxophonist Joe Harriott who introduced her parents to each other; and three new poems from Rialto pamphlet poet Janet Rogerson.<\/p>\n<p>World War One looms, with Carol Rumens and Liz Berry in search of their ancestors.\u00a0 Michael swooped on Kim Moore at Aldeburgh after she\u2019d read \u2018A Trumpet Teacher\u2019s Curse\u2019 and secured it for the magazine.\u00a0 There are other Rialto names such as Christina Dunhill and Julie Mellor.\u00a0 Then there are poets new to <i>The Rialto<\/i>, some not yet much published, such as Roderic Vincent, Alex Bell, Selina Rodrigues, Joe Dresner, Edison Dupree who I don\u2019t think has appeared in the UK before, and Olivia Walwyn whose first published poem I think we\u2019ve got.\u00a0 (My first published poem appeared in <i>The Rialto<\/i>; that was a life-changing event.)\u00a0 The RSPB\/Rialto poetry competition has thrown up some new-to-<i>The-Rialto<\/i> names too, and some birds.\u00a0 Michael the birder tries to get away from these but they swim, fly, swagger or display in the rest of the magazine too: magpie, peacock, kingfisher, duck.\u00a0 I think bird poems have to be extra good to get in.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_2166\" style=\"width: 248px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.therialto.co.uk\/pages\/wp-content\/uploads\/Sargent-The_Rialto_Venice.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-2166\" class=\" wp-image-2166     \" alt=\"Sargent The_Rialto_Venice\" src=\"http:\/\/www.therialto.co.uk\/pages\/wp-content\/uploads\/Sargent-The_Rialto_Venice-300x174.jpg\" width=\"238\" height=\"138\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.therialto.co.uk\/pages\/wp-content\/uploads\/Sargent-The_Rialto_Venice-300x174.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.therialto.co.uk\/pages\/wp-content\/uploads\/Sargent-The_Rialto_Venice-400x232.jpg 400w, https:\/\/www.therialto.co.uk\/pages\/wp-content\/uploads\/Sargent-The_Rialto_Venice-510x296.jpg 510w, https:\/\/www.therialto.co.uk\/pages\/wp-content\/uploads\/Sargent-The_Rialto_Venice-150x87.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.therialto.co.uk\/pages\/wp-content\/uploads\/Sargent-The_Rialto_Venice-768x445.jpg 768w, https:\/\/www.therialto.co.uk\/pages\/wp-content\/uploads\/Sargent-The_Rialto_Venice.jpg 1000w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 238px) 100vw, 238px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-2166\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">The Rialto, Venice by John Singer Sargent. Philadelphia Museum of Art<\/p><\/div>\n<p>A mix of the familiar and the unexpected seems to me to be best.\u00a0 If I read a magazine regularly I want to see more poems by writers whose work I like, to track what they are up to.\u00a0 But I also want to be surprised.\u00a0 I hope we\u2019ve got a good balance of the two.\u00a0 Comments welcome.<\/p>\n<p>So: how does the balance of the magazine compare to the balance of submissions we receive?\u00a0 I\u2019d say <i>The Rialto<\/i> is very well served by its regular poets, who between them would keep a good quality magazine afloat.<\/p>\n<p>But our catchment area for the new and unexpected is too small.\u00a0 We\u2019d like to see more submissions from the likes of the new-to-<i>The-Rialto<\/i> poets named above.\u00a0 In particular, more from women.\u00a0 We are seeing a narrower range of work from women than from men, and a smaller amount of the new and unexpected.<\/p>\n<p>This is surprising, given that the magazine publishes men and women in more or less equal numbers (though more submissions come from men), and Michael has a reputation, with his Bridge series of Rialto pamphlets, for supporting new women writers from Lorraine Mariner through Hannah Lowe to Jen Campbell.\u00a0 And new men too: Luke Yates last year.<\/p>\n<p>Our catchment area for black and Asian poets seems to be very small.\u00a0 We\u2019d like to see more, far more work from them.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Maybe <i>The Rialto<\/i> is perceived as a white magazine.\u00a0 I hope not.\u00a0 But perception and reality can reinforce each other.<\/p>\n<p>One reason for all this may be the time people have had to wait to get their submissions read: Rialto regulars may be more willing to take the risk.\u00a0 I know of two Facebook threads in the last week alone where people have said they\u2019ve stopped sending to <i>The Rialto<\/i> because it takes too long.\u00a0 (I\u2019ve also been told by people that they\u2019ve been rejected a few times\u2026 so have most poets who get into the magazine.)<\/p>\n<p><b>BUT: we\u2019re now reading poems sent in the second half of November.\u00a0 <\/b>So for most people, the waiting time should be around three months.\u00a0 If your poems are shortlisted, it may take a bit longer.\u00a0 As there are three of us reading, we hope to get the waiting down to a maximum of three months for everyone.<\/p>\n<p>So, calling all poets: especially if you haven\u2019t sent to us before, please think about doing so.\u00a0 If you can get hold of the new issue, have a look.\u00a0 See if you enjoy reading it and think you might fit in, or provide an unexpected contrast.\u00a0 If you can\u2019t get hold of it, try anyway.<\/p>\n<p>We\u2019d like to read your work.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Tonight \u2013 Monday 17 February \u2013 <span style=\"color: #000080;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.coffeehousepoetry.org\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><span style=\"color: #000080;\">at the Troubadour <\/span><\/a><\/span>in London, Michael will discuss the art of choosing with three other editors, Maurice Riordan from <i>Poetry Review<\/i>, Patricia McCarthy from <i>Agenda<\/i> and Ahren Warner from <i>Poetry London<\/i>.<\/strong><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Rialto arrived at the end of last week.\u00a0 It\u2019s strange to open a poetry magazine whose contents you know, down to the last comma \u2013 have discussed and 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